[South Taoyuan WordPress Meetup] 以交朋友為出發點,讓友善的圈圈繼續擴大!

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現在的自己比上一次更好了!這些小小的進步會持續累積在自己身上

WordPress 南桃園小聚主辦 Eric

「不要預設立場」——其實訪問中問道,像是:小聚主辦會遇到的困難、心理建設之類的……都是因為「這個人」已經先預設了一個結果在「那裡」……其實更健康的心態應該是——現在的自己比上一次更好了!像我主辦過程,和上一次比,有沒有更順一點?我覺得這些小小的進步會持續累積在自己身上。


桃園小聚今天換了一個新的場地。以前會經常換地點嗎?

也沒有耶!以前場地大多是在內壢的一間咖啡店,是主辦其一的大邵推薦的。但說到最早小聚一開始的時候,是在一個吃 Pizza 的餐廳喔!默默的也經歷了幾次改變。也感謝 Hank 介紹了這次新的場地!

開始桃園 WordPress 小聚的動機?

很多 WordPress 的使用者都不是住在台北地區,也許是跟風吧!在台灣第一場 WordCamp 之後,主辦人阿竣也鼓勵各地區要辦自己的小聚,一開始是和 Andy 一同舉辦桃園小聚,在討論形式上,我們想要走比較輕鬆的路線,所以就決定是披薩聚會了!我以前參加台北內湖小聚時,從參加者開始,也當過講者之後,會去思考嘗試一個不同的身份、做不一樣的事。

成為小聚主辦前,會需要一些心裡建設嗎?或是過程中遇到的困難?

我好像沒經歷過特別的困難耶!真要說的話,之前和阿竣聊到,有一些人辦小聚會很有挫折感,也許這個人花了很多時間精心準備,但來的人並不見得有想像中那麼多!如果心態一時轉換不過來的話,很可能就因此不想再辦下去了,認為自己的努力沒有得到回報……

對我自己而言,會更單純的抱著這是一個「出社會版的社團」……其實,我一開始參加,也會想看看有沒有業務機會,如果碰到問題也能順道問一下……但越是熟悉,想法就會漸漸轉為:這是一個單純交朋友的場合。就算來得人少,或都是本來就認識的人,那當一個月的老朋友一聚,也沒什麼不好啊!

上個問題聽你馬上當機立斷回答「沒有困難」耶!個性上,會認為自己比較屬於樂天派嗎?

因為我的定位吧!本來就是屬於多認識人、交朋友的場合,並不會特別營造出什麼感覺,那種很強的目的性……更確切的說,我要營造的是只是鼓勵大家來交流的氣氛,而非上課。

我覺得主要是在「得失心」上,如果得失心太重,比如,你對自己主辦小聚有一個想像,因為求好心切,所以去和台北小聚相比,或是像板橋小聚,第一場就有七、八十人。如果一直鑽牛角尖的想著:「是不是也能像他們那樣?」這樣的比較心態出現,我猜過了兩、三次,大概就不想辦了……

南桃園 WordPress 小聚似乎有很多個主辦,可以介紹一下他們在桃園小聚裡的角色或是你們分工的部分嗎?

多個主辦的好處就是,大家可以隨時互相 cover 一下,並沒有特別明確的分工,基本上就是自己想到可以貢獻什麼,就拿出來一起討論。譬如目前幾次的場地,都是請 Hend 協助租借安東青創基地,初期講者比較少的時候,則會請 Andy 跟大邵一起招募講者。除了互相協助外,這些主辦們更像是一種「樁腳」吧!如同前面提到的,即便來的人少,也可以當作老朋友每個月一次聚會,因此通常都是主辦們自己大概確定好共同可以的時間後,才會對外發布。

第一次的桃園披薩聚,就是 Andy 與我一同策劃的;後續的內壢場地,是大邵推薦的;最近幾次的安東青創基地,則是 Hend 協助租借的。只要有點想法,我們都歡迎大家一起成為「主辦」。

參加大聚——也就是上一次的 WordCamp 之後,對 WordPress 、或是對小聚的想法有改觀嗎?有沒有得到新的想法?

所以不會特別有這方面的聯想,畢竟是不一樣的東西。真要說的話……會覺得比起 WordCamp ,舉辦 WordPress 小聚要簡單太多了!大型活動需要更多人去推動、合作,更多資源要整合與溝通。

不過在交流的本質上是相同的,只是從北部地區的朋友,認識了中南部、甚至還有國外的朋友!

對於小聚有沒有關於什麼目標和規劃呢?

有一個目標——希望在這裡參加桃園小聚的參加者,都能去辦屬於自己的小聚,我也會開玩笑說, WordPress 是一個直銷大會!因為我們就是在傳達並擴散「開源」的理念,如果有人先參加我這裡的小聚,之後也自己誕生一個新的小聚,我非常樂見這樣的情形!

但也不會強求。總之,單純覺得這是一件非常有趣的事情,這件事成了,也許表示這個人從我主辦的身上看到了什麼,然後自己也想去試吧!

分享一句阿竣的話,他說:「『開源』這種東西,你要是不喜歡,那你來啊!反之要是喜歡,你也來啊!」不管怎樣都是自己要試試看的。

謝謝 Eric 接受今天的訪問!最後做個結尾吧!

「不要預設立場」——其實剛才講了這些,像是:小聚主辦會遇到的困難、心理建設之類的……都是因為「這個人」已經先預設了一個結果在「那裡」。如果沒抵達,得失心就出現了。一旦在這樣「負」的情緒一直持續的情況下,很快就會沒有動力去做任何事——其實更健康的心態應該是——現在的自己比上一次更好了!像我主辦過程,和上一次比,有沒有更順一點?我覺得這些小小的進步會持續累積在自己身上。

不過,有時候,有人會把「不要預設立場」解讀成「不要有目標」,認為兩者有所衝突,但這是不同的東西。我當然會有個目標,就是一個想法:「我要辦小聚」,所以小聚開始了!但是定位很明確——以交朋友為出發點,讓這友善的圈圈繼續擴大!


WordPress 南桃園小聚基本資料

主辦人:Eric/Andy Liao/大邵
自介:主辦之一的 Eric 從 2017/11 開始參與 WordPress 的台北小聚,發現這是一個「出社會後可以交朋友」的場合,因此持續參與。 從 WordCamp Taipei 2018 後,深深感受到 WordPress 社群發展的潛力。接受了台北小聚主辦阿竣「不喜歡?自己來;喜歡?自己來」的概念,以及在主辦 Andy 的促成下,近兩年來桃園的首次 WordPress 小聚從 2018 年 12 月的披薩會中誕生。 由於對社群抱持著「交朋友」的想法,因此桃園小聚不論規模或是主題上都沒有限制,也因此盡可能地不讓小聚變成是「免費上課」的感覺。 如果說每件事都有其目的的話,那桃園小聚的目的,除了是「交朋友」外,也希望透過營造開放的討論環境,將開源的精神用程式碼以外的形式散佈出去。
舉辦次數: 10 場
平均參與人數:10 人左右
第一次舉辦年月:2018/12

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English

I am better than I was! All these little improvements I make adds up.

Eric, South Taoyuan WordPress Meetup Organiser

“Don’t make assumptions.” Questions like, “Did you encounter any difficulties while organising the meetup”, “how did mentally prepare yourself for this”, in the interview are based on the assumptions that there is a result that needs to be reached. But, actually, we should think about it this way: we are better than we were! Does this meetup run more smoothly than the last one? All these little improvements add up and help me become a better version of myself.


Did you need to mentally prepare yourself for the role of a meetup organiser? Did you encounter any difficulties while organizing a meetup?

I didn’t really encounter any difficulties. To be honest, I was talking with 阿竣, the Taipei WordPress meetup organizer, and we were saying that some people got really frustrated when they spent a lot of time on the meetup and not as many people showed up as they had expected. And if they can’t change their mentality, they might not want to run the meetup anymore, thinking their hard-work doesn’t pay off. 

However, I see the meetup as student societies for grown-ups. To be honest, I first came to the meetup because I wanted to see if I could expand my business. But the more meetups I attended, the more I see this as an opportunity to meet new friends. Even if only a few people show up or those who show up are people I’ve already known, it could still be a great chance just to chat with old friends! 

There seemed to be more than one organizer for South Taoyuan WordPress Meetup. Can you maybe briefly introduce them to us? How do you decide who should do what?

The good thing about having more than one organizer is that we can help each other out. We don’t really have a very clear division of work. People just do whatever they can, and we discuss it together. Say, Hend arranged the venues for the previous meetups, hiring it from Mr. Andong. And in the beginning, when we didn’t have many speakers, Andy and 大邵 were recruiting speakers. We help each other out, but more importantly we always show up at the meetup. So if not many people come, we could still chat and enjoy ourselves. So, we usually set up a time for the meetup when everyone is available before we announce the meetup time.

Thanks for talking with us! Anything you’d like to add?

“Don’t make assumptions.” I’ve actually talked about this already. Questions like, “did you encounter any difficulties while organising the meetup”, “how did mentally prepare yourself for this”, in the interview are based on the assumptions that there is a result that needs to be reached. If we don’t achieve the goal, we become frustrated. Frustrations demotivate people, making them not wanting to do anything. We should think of it this way: we are better than we were! Does this meetup run more smoothly than the last one? All these little improvements add up and help me become a better version of myself.

But, sometimes, people mistake not making assumptions for not setting up goals, thinking expected results and goals two are incompatible. But it’s not the case. Of course I have a goal, which is to organise a meetup. So the meetup came to be. The goal is clear, starts with making friends and expanding the friendly community!

South Taoyuan WordPress meetup

Organizer: Eric/ Andy Laio/大邵
Bio: Eric first came to WordPress meetups in Taipei in November 2017, discovering it was a perfect chance to meet new friends after he started to work. He then attended WordCamp Taipei 2018 and meetups for 2 years. He started the first WordPress meetup in Taoyuan thanks to Chun and Andy, and Chun’s “if you don’t like it, do it yourself! If you like it, do it yourself.” philiosophy. The first Taoyuan WordPress meetup was thus born amidst a pizza lunch. Taoyuan WordPress meetups are open to all different topics and people, encouraging participants to come and meet new friends, and try not to become free lectures. If there’s a purpose behind every action, the purpose of Taoyuan meetups is socialising as well as creating a comfortable environment for people to share the spirit of open source in forms other than codes.
Meetup held: 10
Average participants: around 10 participants
First WordPress meetup: 2018/12